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Seleucid

Historical Overview Section

List 42 - 320-64BC
The Army of Antiochus III
Seleucus was an officer of Alexander the Great, commander of the élite infantry corps in the Macedonian army, the "Shield-bearers" (Hypaspistai), later known as the "Silvershields". After the death of Alexander, Seleucus was nominated as the satrap of Babylon in 320 BCE. Antigonus forced Seleucus to flee from Babylon, but, supported by Ptolemy, he was able to return in 312 BCE. Seleucus' later conquests include Persia and Media. He formed an alliance with the Indian King Chandragupta Maurya. Seleucus defeated Antigonus in the battle of Ipsus in 301 BCE and Lysimachus in the battle of Corupedium in 281 BCE. He was assassinated by Ptolemy Ceraunus during the same year. His successor was his son Antiochus I.

Using the army in ADLG

  • When using the Cataphracts, consider an included General as he will be leading them anyway, and this may well be a small command
  • The Pike block doesn't need a particularly good general unless you are expecting to do a lot of rallying to make them more survivable
  • Maximise the Thracians - 2HCW troops are really good in this period
  • Its possible to generate a lot of useful LF in this army to screen the infantry and (in the later period) the cheap Mediocre elephants, which also boosts the break point so your capital troops have more resilience before the army breaks
  • Roman Argyaspids have more flexibility than the Phalanx, and at a pinch can go into rough terrain too especially if armoured
  • 2 Mediocre Camels are often enough to protect one flank - and almost certainly so once the main line of infantry has drifted a couple of bases out to that flank

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Army Lists

Sample army lists for this army
Burton 2020 - 325 points
2 Scythians
3 Elite Cataphracts included Ordinary General
1 Ordinary Cataphract
1 Mediocre Militia Cavalryman
==
3 Galatians
2 Elite Cretans
3 Pike
2 Cappadocian LF Javelin
1 Mediocre Elephant
1 Theurophori Medium Spear
Brilliant General
==
3 Armoured Argyaspids
2 LF Slingers
3 Pike
1 Cappadocian LF Javelin
2 Medium Camels Mediocre Bow
1 Theurophori Medium Spear
Brilliant General
==
Maccabean Ally
4 Medium Impact Foot Sword (General Ordinary Included)
1 LF Bow
1 LF Sling
1 LF Javelin

Steve Price, PAW 2020
2 Phalanx
1 Elite Phalanx
2 LF Bow Elite
2 Impact Ordinary Cavalry
Competent General
==
4 Cataphracts
4 LH Bow
Competent Allied Parthian General
==
2 Elephants
1 Thracian
2 Thorakitoi
2 LF Javelin
General

Seleucid PAW
4 Phalanx
1 Elite Phalanx embedded Ordinary Genera;l
1 LF Javelin
1 Armoured Theurophoroi
==
2 Thracians
1 Theurophoroi
2 Elephants
2 LF Bow
1 Galatian Elite MCv
Brilliant General
==
2 Skythians
2 Elite Companions
2 Ordinary Companions
Competent General


42 Seleucid (Bodin - Britcon 2019)
Brilliant
2 Pikemen Pikemen Ordinary 11 22
1 Phalanx Pikemen Elite 13 13
1 Theureophoroi Medium spearmen Ordinary 7 7
1 Galatian Horsemen Medium cavalry Elite 9 9
2 Light Infantry Bow Light infantry bow Ordinary 4 8
1 Bowmen Bowmen Ordinary 7 7
==
Competent
2 Eléphants Elephant Elite 16 32
2 Light Infantry Bow Light infantry bow Ordinary 4 8
2
Thracian Peltasts with
Rhomphoia Medium swordsmen 2HW Ordinary 8 16
1 Javelinmen Javelinmen Ordinary 7 7
==
Brilliant
2 Xystohoroi Heavy cavalry impact Elite 12 24
2 Xystohoroi Heavy cavalry impact Ordinary 10 20
2 Light Cavalry Bow Light cavalry bow Ordinary 6 12


42 Seleucid (Bohm - Britcon 2019)
Brilliant
2 Pikemen Pikemen Ordinary
2 Argyaspid Phalanx Pikemen Elite
3 Light Infantry Bow Light infantry bow Ordinary
2 Thracian Peltasts with Rhomphoia Medium swordsmen 2HW Ordinary
1 Eléphant Elephant Elite
1 Levy
==
Competent Included
2 Xystohoroi Heavy cavalry impact Elite (with Gen - Britcon 2019)
2 Xystohoroi Heavy cavalry impact Ordinary
1 LH Bow
==
Competent
1 Elephant
1 Galatian Horsemen Medium cavalry Elite
1 Cappadocian LF Javelin
2 Asiatic Bowmen



42 Seleucid (Mackay - Britcon 2019)
Brilliant
2 Thorakitai Medium spearmen armour ------
2 Thracians Medium swordsmen 2HW ------
2 Elephants Elephant Elite
2 Cappadocians Light infantry javelin ------
==
Ordinary Included
1 Argyraspids Pikemen Elite
3 Seleucid Pikemen Pikemen ------
==
Brilliant
2 Xystophoroi Cataphract Elite
2 Xystophoroi Cataphract ------
1 Light Infantry Light infantry bow ------
2 Skythians Light cavalry bow ------
1 Asiatic Archers Bowmen ------

Rafas Worlds 2019 List
1 LH Bow
1 Ordinary Cataphract (included General)
2 Medocre Cavalry Medium
==
2 Elite Galatians
1 LF Javelin
1 Mediocre Elephant
2 Pikeman
1 Medium Spear
1 Bowman
Brilliant General
==
1 Mediocre Elephant
2 Pike
2 Roman Argyaspids
1 LF Bow
1 LF Javelin
1 Medium Spear
2 Inferior Came;ls with Bow
1 LH Bow

Pamplona 2019 Massimiliano's List
Maccabean Ally
2 LH Bow
1 LF Sling
1 LF Bow
1 LF Javelin
4 MF Swordsmen Impact
==
1 EL (S)
2 LF Javelin
2 Horde
2 Scythed Chariots
1 Bow
==
3 Pike (one is Superior)
2 Ordinary Cataphracts
4 Lf Bow
2 LH Bow

Rafas Pamplona 2019 List
1 LH Bow
2 Ordinary Cataphracts (included General)
2 Medocre Cavalry Medium
==
2 Elite Galatians
2 LF Sling
1 LF Javelin
1 Mediocre Elephant
1 Horde
1 Pikeman
1 Medium Spear
1 Bowman
==
1 Mediocre Elephant
2 Roman Argyaspids
1 LF Bow
1 LF Javelin
1 Medium Spear
2 INferior Came;ls with Bow
1 LhBow
1 Pikeman

Bournemouth 2019 Game 1
2 LH Bow
4 Impact HC, Ordinary, included General
==
3 Pike
2 Galatians
1 LF Bow
2 Bow
==
2 Pike
Death Star with Thracians
1 Elite Pike
1 LF Bow

2nd Place Bournemouth 2019
2 Elite Elephants
2 Medium Spear
LF Cretin
LF Javelinman
Brilliant
==
2 Bowmen
3 Pikemen
2 Ordinary Cataphracts
Javelinman
1 Cretin Archer
Brilliant General
==
2 LH Bow (one is elite)
3 Elite Companions + Embedded General
1 LH Javelin

Rafas 3rd place list Worlds 2018
Brilliant G
2 Argyaspids Heavy swordsmen impact ------
2 Phalangites Pikemen
2 Militia Medium cavalry Mediocre
1 Light Infantry Bow Light infantry bow
1 Xystophoroi Cataphract ------
1 Elephant Elephant Mediocre
1 Asiatic archers Bowmen ------
1 Thracians Javelinmen ----
1 Light Cavalry Bow Light cavalry bow ----
1 Light infantry javelin Light infantry javelin ----
==
Competent G
2 Medium Camelry Bow Medium Camel bow Mediocre
1 Light cavalry bow Light cavalry bow ------
1 Elephant Elephant Mediocre
1 Asiatic Archers Bowmen ----
1 Thracian Javelinmen ------
1 Light infantry javelin Light infantry javelin ----
==
Hasmonean Competent Ally
1 Light Infantry sling Light infantry sling ----
1 Light infantry javelin Light infantry javelin
2 Bowmen Bowmen ------
1 Thureophoroi general incluided Pikemen Mediocre
1 Thureophoroi Pikemen Mediocre
1 Javelinmen Javelinmen ----

200AP USTT 18
Strategist
2 Xystophoroi Heavy cavalry impact Elite
1 Xystophoroi Heavy cavalry impact ------
2 Skythians Light cavalry bow ------
3 Phalangites Pikemen ------
==
Competent Nreliable
2 Argyraspids Pikemen Elite
1 Phalangites Pikemen ------
1 Asiatic archers Light infantry bow ------
2 Bedouins Medium camelry bow Mediocre
==
Competent
2 Thracian Medium swordsmen 2HW
2 Thorakitai Medium spearmen armour
1 Elephants Elephant
1 Asiatic archers Light infantry bow


200AP from The Worlds
3 Pike - 2xO, 1xS
Brilliant General
1 Elephant
2 MI Javelins
4 LF Bow
2 LH Bow
====
2 LH Jls
3 HC Impact including an Ordinary General
==
3 El
2 LF Jls
2 Bw
2 Medium Swordsmen
Competent General

200Ap
Brilliant/Competent/Ordinary

  • 2 Xystophoroi Heavy cavalry impact Elite
  • 2 Xystophoroi Heavy cavalry impact ------
  • 2 Scythians Light cavalry bow ------

-----

  • 4 Selucid Pikemen Pikemen ------
  • 2 Argyraspids Pikemen Elite
  • 2 Light intantry bow Light infantry bow ------
  • 2 Scythed Chariot Scythed chariot ----

------

  • 1 Elephant Elephant ----
  • 2 Thorakitai Medium spearmen armour ------
  • 2 Thracians Javelinmen ----
  • 2 Light Infantry Bow Light infantry bow ----



200 AP
Brilliant/Competent/Brilliant

  • 5 phalangites Pikemen ------
  • 1 hypaspists Pikemen Elite
  • 2 agrianians Light infantry javelin Elite

-----

  • 3 companions Heavy cavalry impact Elite
  • 1 elephant Elephant ------
  • 2 light horse Light cavalry javelin ------

------

  • 3 thracian javelinmen Medium swordsmen 2HW ----
  • 1 hippakontistai Light cavalry javelin ------
  • 3 scythians Light cavalry bow ------
  • 1 light infantry javelinmen Light infantry javelin ----




200 Points
2 Brilliant & 1 Competent

  • 2 Cataphract Cataphract Elite
  • 2 Skythians Light cavalry bow ------
  • 3 Levy Levy ------
  • 2 Asiatic Horsemen Light cavalry javelin ------

  • 2 Lights Light infantry bow
  • 2 Pikemen Pikemen
  • 4 Argyraspids Heavy swordsmen armour impact

  • 2 Thorakitai Medium spearmen armour ----
  • 2 Thracians Medium swordsmen 2HW ------
  • 2 Cretans Light infantry bow Elite
  • 2 Lights Light infantry bow ----




200 Points
Command 1

  • 1 Antiochus III (Strategist)
  • 6 Pikemen
  • 2 Light Infantry Bow
  • 2 Light Infantry Javelins

Command 2

  • 1 Competent Commander
  • 3 Heavy Swordsmen Impact Armour
  • 1 Cataphract

Command 3

  • 1 Competent Commander
  • 2 Medium Spearmen Armour
  • 2 Medium Swordsmen 2HW
  • 1 Light Cavalry Bow
  • 3 Light Cavalry Javelins

22 Army Totals

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